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2" EMT bender deduct by bender

By Andrew ·

Quick answer

The 14 shoes in BendMate that bend 2" EMT deduct between 12 3/4" and 16 7/8", and the most common figure is 15 3/8". No hand bender takes this size, so the number comes from your mechanical, electric or hydraulic bender’s shoe. Mark the conduit at the stub length minus that deduct: a 36" stub on a 15 3/8" deduct is marked at 20 5/8".

2" EMT deduct by bender

14 shoes in BendMate bend 2" EMT. The most common deduct is 15 3/8".

Deduct and centerline radius of benders that bend 2" EMT
BenderDeduct (take-up)Centerline radius
Gardner Bender Sidewinder (Mechanical, Chicago-style)12 3/4"9 7/16"
Greenlee 882 (Hydraulic, Flip-Top)14 5/8"9 5/16"
Greenlee 1818 (Mechanical)15"9 3/16"
Current Tools 77 Series (Multi-shoe)15 3/8"9 3/16"
Gardner Bender Electric Sidewinder (Multiple 180° shoes)15 3/8"9 3/16"
Greenlee 555 (Multi-shoe)15 3/8"9 3/16"
Gardner Bender B2000 Cyclone (Large combo shoe)15 1/2"9 11/16"
iToolco B2 Rapid Fire (Large combo shoe)15 1/2"9 1/4"
Current Tools 747 Omni (Combo shoe)16 1/8"9 1/4"
Current Tools 77 Series (Single shoe)16 3/8"9 1/4"
Greenlee 555 (Combo shoe)16 3/8"9 1/4"
Greenlee 555 (Single shoe)16 3/8"9 1/4"
Greenlee 854DX (Large combo shoe)16 3/4"9 1/4"
Greenlee 855GX (Standard shoe)16 7/8"9 1/4"

What bends 2" EMT

Hand benders stop at 1-1/4" EMT, so every row in the table above belongs to a machine. The deduct is the distance from the machine’s benchmark, usually the front edge of the hook or a saddle, to the back of the finished 90, and each shoe has its own.

  • Mechanical: the Greenlee 1818 deducts 15" and the Gardner Bender Sidewinder 12 3/4".
  • Electric: the Greenlee 855GX deducts 16 7/8", the iToolco B2 15 1/2" and the Gardner Bender B2000 15 1/2". The Greenlee 555 depends on which shoe group is fitted (below).
  • Hydraulic: the Greenlee 882 deducts 14 5/8" on a 9 5/16" radius.
mark at = stub length − deduct
Measured from the end of the conduit that becomes the stub, with the mark on the benchmark.

Why the deducts spread over 4 1/8"

deduct = straight before the bend + centerline radius + OD ÷ 2
The OD of 2" EMT is 2.197", the same on every machine.

The radii in the table sit within 1/2" of each other, from 9 3/16" to 9 11/16", yet the deducts spread over 4 1/8". Most of the difference is the first term: how far ahead of the arc each machine puts its benchmark. A hook that starts the bend further from the mark gives a bigger deduct on the same radius.

That is why a deduct cannot be carried from one machine to another. Mark a 36" stub with 12 3/4" on a shoe that really takes 16 7/8" and the stub comes out 4 1/8" long.

Same machine, different shoe group

The table lists shoe groups, not just machines. A Greenlee 555 deducts 15 3/8" for 2" EMT with the multi-shoe group and 16 3/8" with the single-shoe group, 1" apart on the same motor. The Current Tools 77 does the same: 15 3/8" multi-shoe, 16 3/8" single-shoe.

Marks for common 2" EMT stubs

Where to mark 2" EMT for a stub-up, measured from the end, at the smallest, most common and largest deduct in the table. A dash means the stub is no longer than the deduct.
Stub lengthDeduct 12 3/4"Deduct 15 3/8"Deduct 16 7/8"
24"11 1/4"8 5/8"7 1/8"
30"17 1/4"14 5/8"13 1/8"
36"23 1/4"20 5/8"19 1/8"
42"29 1/4"26 5/8"25 1/8"
48"35 1/4"32 5/8"31 1/8"
A 36" stub-up in 2" EMT
Stub length
36"
Deduct
15 3/8"
Mark at, from the end
20 5/8"

A mark very close to the end leaves the hook nothing to hold. Each manual gives a minimum distance from the end of the conduit, so the shortest stub a machine can make is its deduct plus that distance.

Confirm it on your machine

  1. Find the deduct for your shoe group in the manual or on the chart fixed to the machine.
  2. Bend a test 90 in a scrap of 2" EMT, marked at 20 5/8" for a 36" stub.
  3. Measure from the end to the back of the bend. Any difference from 36" is the correction to your deduct.

Get the marks for your bender

BendMate works this out from your bender’s radius and deduct, flags a bend that won’t work, and shows you every mark.

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Common questions

What is the deduct for 2 inch EMT?

It depends on the machine: the 14 shoes in BendMate run from 12 3/4" to 16 7/8", and 15 3/8" is the most common. Use the figure for your own shoe group.

Can you bend 2 inch EMT with a hand bender?

No. Hand benders stop at 1-1/4" EMT, so 2" EMT is bent on a mechanical, electric or hydraulic bender.

How do I mark a 36 inch stub in 2 EMT?

Subtract your bender’s deduct from 36". With 15 3/8", the mark goes 20 5/8" from the end; line it up with the machine’s benchmark.

Why does the same bender show two deducts?

Many electric benders take more than one shoe group, and each group has its own shoes and its own deducts. The table lists each group separately.