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What Is Gain in Conduit Bending?

By Andrew ·

Quick answer

Gain is the conduit a bend saves by curving round the shoe instead of turning a sharp corner. For a 90 it is R × (2 − π/2), about 0.429 × the centerline radius, plus one OD when legs are measured to the back of the bend. Subtract it from the legs’ total for the cut length: about 2 1/2" for 1/2" EMT on a Greenlee hand bender.

Where gain comes from

A layout on paper, like the multiplier method, treats a bend as a sharp corner: the two legs run out to a point and meet. Real conduit wraps round the shoe and cuts that corner. The conduit in the bend is shorter than the two legs measured out to the corner, and the difference is the gain.

centerline gain of a 90 = 2 × R − R × π ÷ 2 = R × (2 − π/2) ≈ 0.429 × R
R is the centerline radius. 2 × R is the two legs out to the corner; R × π ÷ 2 is the arc the conduit really follows.

Stubs and legs are measured to the back of the bend, the outside of the conduit, which sits half an OD outside the centerline on each leg. So the gain you use at the bender adds one whole OD.

gain (back of 90) = R × (2 − π/2) + OD
For 1/2" EMT on a 4 3/16" radius: 1 13/16" + 0.706" ≈ 2 1/2".

What gain is used for

cut length = stub + other leg − gain
For one 90, with both legs measured to the back of the bend.
A 12" stub and a 36" leg on a 1/2" EMT hand bender
Stub
12"
Other leg
36"
Gain
2 1/2"
Cut length
45 1/2"

Each 90 in a stick takes off its own gain. A U made of back-to-back 90s has two corners, so it loses two gains.

cut length of back-to-back 90s = leg + distance between backs + leg − 2 × gain

Gain also moves marks. If you mark a second 90 on the straight conduit before bending the first, every 90 between the end and the mark pulls the mark one gain closer to the end.

Back-to-back 90s marked from one end: 12" stub, 30" between the backs, 1/2" EMT
First stub
12"
Distance between the backs
30"
Gain
2 1/2"
First mark, on the arrow
7" (12" − 5" take-up)
Second mark, on the star
39 1/2" (12" + 30" − gain)
Cut length with a 12" second leg
49"

The gain of real shoes

Greenlee aluminum hand bender: centerline radius, take-up and gain at the back of a 90
ShoeCenterline radiusTake-up (deduct)Centerline gainGain (back of 90)
1/2" EMT4 3/16"5"1 13/16"2 1/2"
3/4" EMT5 1/8"6"2 3/16"3 1/8"
1/2" rigid5 1/8"6"2 3/16"3 1/16"
1/2" IMC5 1/8"6"2 3/16"3"
1" EMT6 1/2"8"2 13/16"3 15/16"
3/4" rigid6 1/2"8"2 13/16"3 13/16"
3/4" IMC6 1/2"8"2 13/16"3 13/16"
1-1/4" EMT9 5/8"11"4 1/8"5 5/8"
1" rigid9 5/8"11"4 1/8"5 7/16"
1" IMC9 5/8"11"4 1/8"5 7/16"

Greenlee prints the radius and the take-up of each head. BendMate works the gain out from the radius and the conduit’s OD, which is why a rigid shoe in the same groove as an EMT one shows a slightly different gain.

Gain at the back of a 90 on other benders’ EMT shoes
BenderShoeCenterline radiusGain (back of 90)
Klein Tools aluminum hand bender1/2" EMT4 5/8"2 11/16"
Greenlee 555 (Single shoe)2" EMT9 1/4"6 3/16"
Greenlee 881 (Hydraulic, Cam Track, one-shot 90° shoes)4" EMT20 7/8"13 7/16"

The gain grows in step with the radius: double the radius and the centerline part doubles. On a big electric or hydraulic shoe it runs to several inches, so a cut length worked out with a hand bender’s gain, or with none, comes out long.

Gain at other angles

gain at any angle = 2 × R × tan(angle ÷ 2) − R × angle in radians
At 90° this is the 0.429 × R above. It shrinks quickly as the angle gets smaller.

Each bend of an offset or saddle has a small gain too. The multiplier method ignores it, so on a real shoe the bends sit a little closer than the chart says and the shrink is a little smaller. It hardly shows on shallow bends in small conduit and matters more on steep bends and big shoes. BendMate works its marks out from your bender’s centerline radius and deduct, so the gain is already in them.

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Common questions

What is gain on a conduit bender?

It is the conduit a bend saves by curving round the shoe instead of turning a sharp corner. You take it off the sum of the legs to find the cut length.

How do you calculate gain for a 90 degree bend?

Multiply the centerline radius by 2 − π/2, about 0.429. When the legs are measured to the back of the bend, as stubs are, add one OD of the conduit.

Is gain the same as take-up?

No. Take-up (deduct) tells you where to mark a 90 so the stub comes out right. Gain tells you how much shorter the conduit is than its two legs added together.

How do I find the gain of my own bender?

Bend a 90 in a piece of known length, measure both legs to the back of the bend, and subtract the length of the piece from their sum. What is left is the gain.